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If the East-elves are organized, we don't learn of it. Esgaroth has fallen onto hard times, but never seems to have had a great deal of influence on the rest of the world. I think so too, I actually just thought of this.ДЄs you say, Gondor is on the skids and Arnor has fallen. In AUG the implication that Thranduil pays homage to Thror always irritates me slightly and I generally like the Dwarves better than the Elves.Д«ut really I think that it's just something the writers came up with to overemphasize the importance of Erebor and make it's fall that much harder, just like they made the treasure trove impossibly large. Maybe of the existing Dwarf realms but not everywhere else. Moreover, the quality of the line there just feeds into the fairytale aspect of the early part of the prologue: 'it began long ago', etc.ДЄnd it is shown to be a great realm indeed, so Bilbo's words aren't unearned. that Erebor was the greatest kingdom at the time of the story: which is past Gondor's prime, and after the fall of Khazad Dum. I think Bilbo is talking at a present tense That really makes the story that much more epic. And if we look at the rest of Arda, there's NГєmenor. The greatest kingdom in Middle-earth might have been Gondor at its height.

though I think the line was only referring to the Dwarf-kingdoms.

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